Hello all, I'm new to the forum and was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem thats arisen after flashing what appears to be a bad clone image? My 8K is a clone box and I have the original Ferrari SIM along with a newer Japhar sim. I have two of these boxes in total and generally very happy with their performance - the new Japhar sim and associated images have breathed new life into them. A couple of days ago, I was "experimenting" with different images (old and new) and installed an image that I downloaded from another forum. Upon reboot, the LCD on the 8K displayed "ERROR"with the Dream logo in the background. Despite trying numerous procedures suggested by other 8K owners, I have not been able to overcome this issue in order to flash a working image. I have tried the SIM from my second 8K box with no success and have also proven that the SIM from the broken box is working perfectly so the issue appears to reside on the mainboard. I've tried the null modem with ethernet cable solution but to no avail. The system is recognized by the Japhar flasher version of DreamUP however it does not transfer the bootloader. It just sits with the following in the console: 20:51:06 box type: DM8000 20:51:06 Enabled recovery of bad sectors I've also tried optiflasher 2 but this returns an error "DM8000 detected" and then " Wrong boot response". I'm about to give up at this stage but thought I'd ask the knowledgeable folk on this site if they had any ideas? edit: I should also add that I don't get any activity lights on the Ethernet port since the failed flash operation. thanks in advance for any help you can give. Wrangles.